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Super League Expansion
Topic Started: Mar 29 2011, 11:01 PM (1,818 Views)
Mortlad	Mar 29 2011, 11:01 PM Post #1
International Junior Posts: 368 Group: Members Member #540 Joined: Mar 29, 2011	Probably as much hope of this happening as of Wales winning the 2011 4 Nations but I wonder if expansion of the Super League into Ireland and Scotland as well a 2nd French team in Toulouse would increase the playing standards of these nations? I know Toulouse are playing in the Championship but does anyone know when they are likely to be admitted to Super League?
	The South (of France) shall rise again!


Rugby League Nut	Mar 30 2011, 05:45 AM Post #2
Administrator Posts: 6,290 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 25, 2009	With Toulouse from what i have heard is that they are not ready this time round but will be in a better position in three years time. With Ireland and Scotland they have a long way to go before they have a super league team. They should follow the model of the crusaders and start in the championship and work their way up!
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Mortlad	Mar 30 2011, 09:19 AM Post #3
International Junior Posts: 368 Group: Members Member #540 Joined: Mar 29, 2011	Rugby League Nut Mar 30 2011, 05:45 AM With Toulouse from what i have heard is that they are not ready this time round but will be in a better position in three years time. With Ireland and Scotland they have a long way to go before they have a super league team. They should follow the model of the crusaders and start in the championship and work their way up! Thanks! Working through the Championship seems fair enough. I think creating a pathway for players to reach top flight might well see potential union players become or remain league players.
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Rugby League Nut	Mar 30 2011, 02:55 PM Post #4
Administrator Posts: 6,290 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 25, 2009	Very true. It's all about providing that pathway otherwise players will think its all to hard and jump back over to union
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Mortlad	Mar 30 2011, 03:27 PM Post #5
International Junior Posts: 368 Group: Members Member #540 Joined: Mar 29, 2011	Rugby League Nut Mar 30 2011, 02:55 PM Very true. It's all about providing that pathway otherwise players will think its all to hard and jump back over to union Thats why I was suprised and disappointed Wellington/Southern Orcas aren't bidding for NRL expansion in 2013. Looks like it will be Perth and from what I read a 2nd Brisbane side. Brisbane Diehards is one name some people have tossed around as a way to "outflank" the Broncos. May be if the NRL expand again in 2018 it will be Port Moresby and Wellington. Certainly hope so!
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Rugby League Nut	Mar 30 2011, 04:00 PM Post #6
Administrator Posts: 6,290 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 25, 2009	It is a shame that Wellington haven't submitted a bid. At one stage they wanted to join the super league. I also hope that PNG get a team in the NRL before 2020. It will also be a big boost for the international game as PNG will be able to call on more professional players.
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Mortlad	Mar 30 2011, 05:51 PM Post #7
International Junior Posts: 368 Group: Members Member #540 Joined: Mar 29, 2011	Rugby League Nut Mar 30 2011, 04:00 PM It is a shame that Wellington haven't submitted a bid. At one stage they wanted to join the super league. I also hope that PNG get a team in the NRL before 2020. It will also be a big boost for the international game as PNG will be able to call on more professional players. 2018 was the suggestion I heard after 2013. PNG officials have been in QLD looking at Gold Coasts Skilled Stadium and want to build their stadium along those lines. Hopefully they will keep their top players in PNG like you say and also attract players from Samoa, Tonga and Fiji. Wellington... sigh... The international game needs 2 NZ sides to KEEP NZ as a strong competitor to Australia. Wonder what happened to their backer? Must of had some cash if he was going to fly them back and forth to the UK/France
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Rugby League Nut	Mar 31 2011, 01:33 AM Post #8
Administrator Posts: 6,290 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 25, 2009	If they can get a Stadium like Skilled part they have a huge chance of joining the NRL in 2018. Yep agree that NZ really need two NRL teams to help with building depth in increasing RL coverage in the media in NZ
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dragons4eva	Mar 31 2011, 07:09 AM Post #9
International Expert Posts: 1,439 Group: Members Member #244 Joined: Mar 24, 2010	I'd say get a Central Coast team, Perth and maybe Wellington first. Then maybe look at Central queensland, adelaide. I wouldn't go for a 2nd Brisbane team. And as for Super League lol...i reckon Two French teams, maybe a Manchester team, a Southern Welsh team and maybe try and get an Irish and Scottish team in the lower grades first and work their way up. Edited by dragons4eva, Mar 31 2011, 07:14 AM.



Kingsland7	Mar 31 2011, 09:30 AM Post #10
International Senior Posts: 635 Group: International Moderators Member #237 Joined: Mar 16, 2010	Super League will be set for another period of consolidation I would say, whilst the NRL will more than likely swing Perth and Central Coast. To push further into Brisbane may be on the cards, but I hope it is a hand the NRL does not wish to play. Two RL teams in Brisbane may simply be over-capacity and would have an effect on the broncs. Take the A-League for example, when they moved to put a second team in Melbourne (a city where the league is arguably receiving its most success). The very year they did this they reduced the Melbourne Victories crowds by over 1/4. EG) Melbourne Victory Av Home Crowds: 2005–06 14,158 2006–07 27,728 2007–08 26,064 2008–09 24,516 2009–10 21,105 2010–11 15,234 <<<<< ENTRY OF M. HEART Edited by Kingsland7, Mar 31 2011, 09:32 AM.



Rugby League Nut	Mar 31 2011, 10:28 AM Post #11
Administrator Posts: 6,290 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 25, 2009	Kingsland7 Mar 31 2011, 09:30 AM Super League will be set for another period of consolidation I would say, whilst the NRL will more than likely swing Perth and Central Coast. To push further into Brisbane may be on the cards, but I hope it is a hand the NRL does not wish to play. Two RL teams in Brisbane may simply be over-capacity and would have an effect on the broncs. Take the A-League for example, when they moved to put a second team in Melbourne (a city where the league is arguably receiving its most success). The very year they did this they reduced the Melbourne Victories crowds by over 1/4. EG) Melbourne Victory Av Home Crowds: 2005–06 14,158 2006–07 27,728 2007–08 26,064 2008–09 24,516 2009–10 21,105 2010–11 15,234 <<<<< ENTRY OF M. HEART Interesting stats King I think it is good that Brisbane have Brisbane all to themselves. Put a team in central queensland if they want to put another team up there!
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Ashulster	Mar 31 2011, 05:12 PM Post #12
International Junior Posts: 339 Group: Members Member #444 Joined: Nov 8, 2010	Super League isn't anywhere near ready for expansion. I think the biggest thing stopping Toulouse is their stadium which they are finding difficult to get. If they had a 10,000 seater stadium the RFL would probably let them in right now! 14 is fine for now I think. There are far too many poor quality games in super league without increasing that number with more teams. They are expanding the championships next year though. London based Hemel stags are looknig to make the step up which would mean three London clubs in the pro ranks and an interesting derby with the Skolars. Biggest thing about this expansion is the RFL apperently don't want anymore Yorks or Lancs clubs. They want each league to be 12 teams. So Hemel would take Championship 1 to 12 clubs. Lezignan could make the Championship up to 12 (rumours) though if Toulouse left it would go back down to 11 (more rumours)



Rugby League Nut	Mar 31 2011, 07:16 PM Post #13
Administrator Posts: 6,290 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 25, 2009	Well it will be interesting to see who gets a SL license today!
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Mortlad	Apr 1 2011, 03:27 PM Post #14
International Junior Posts: 368 Group: Members Member #540 Joined: Mar 29, 2011	Ashulster Mar 31 2011, 05:12 PM Super League isn't anywhere near ready for expansion. I think the biggest thing stopping Toulouse is their stadium which they are finding difficult to get. If they had a 10,000 seater stadium the RFL would probably let them in right now! 14 is fine for now I think. There are far too many poor quality games in super league without increasing that number with more teams. They are expanding the championships next year though. London based Hemel stags are looknig to make the step up which would mean three London clubs in the pro ranks and an interesting derby with the Skolars. Biggest thing about this expansion is the RFL apperently don't want anymore Yorks or Lancs clubs. They want each league to be 12 teams. So Hemel would take Championship 1 to 12 clubs. Lezignan could make the Championship up to 12 (rumours) though if Toulouse left it would go back down to 11 (more rumours) So its Widnes Vikings, which county is that in? Good to hear of another London club coming through. Just like France southern England/London needs 2 clubs eventually in the super league
	The South (of France) shall rise again!


crusher	Apr 1 2011, 09:07 PM Post #15
International Learner Posts: 23 Group: Members Member #379 Joined: Oct 8, 2010	a side in the ipswich/logan corridor is almost a must rugby league is by far and away the biggest sport up here we have lots of juniors (increasing each year and won,t take lots of broncos. but games against broncos titans will be a sell out straight away.



International League	Apr 2 2011, 11:27 AM Post #16
International Senior Posts: 620 Group: Members Member #159 Joined: Nov 7, 2009	Central Coast made a good point last night by getting a near capacity crowd of 18,108 to the game between Souths and Manly. Great game and atmosphere too. Central Coast and a second NZ team get my vote this time around.



International League	Apr 2 2011, 11:29 AM Post #17
International Senior Posts: 620 Group: Members Member #159 Joined: Nov 7, 2009	As for Super League, I would really like to see a second French team in the top level and as said above I think there needs to be Scottish and Irish teams working their way up through the championships ASAP.



RyanN	Apr 2 2011, 12:41 PM Post #18
International Junior Posts: 371 Group: Members Member #284 Joined: Jun 15, 2010	I know this is a bit far fetched, radical idea, and probably not ideal in regards to current circumstances. But. What about, instead of putting teams into the Championship, starting another Championship level competition for European nations (other than England), eg. France Wales, Ireland and Scotland? Could work.



Rugby League Nut	Apr 2 2011, 01:30 PM Post #19
Administrator Posts: 6,290 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 25, 2009	That might work or maybe the join the French Elite comp! At least there is a following and possibility of some money
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International League	Apr 3 2011, 10:39 AM Post #20
International Senior Posts: 620 Group: Members Member #159 Joined: Nov 7, 2009	Good Call RLN. I like it, and it would surely add some more depth to the French league.



Mortlad	Apr 3 2011, 06:37 PM Post #21
International Junior Posts: 368 Group: Members Member #540 Joined: Mar 29, 2011	International League Apr 3 2011, 10:39 AM Good Call RLN. I like it, and it would surely add some more depth to the French league. Agree, great idea!
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ParraEelsNRL	May 20 2011, 08:14 PM Post #22
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	Love to see Ireland and Scotland have a team or 2 each placed in the championship to build up.



Ashulster	May 20 2011, 09:55 PM Post #23
International Junior Posts: 339 Group: Members Member #444 Joined: Nov 8, 2010	I am now hoping Lezignan do not go to the championship and while I'd like to see Toulouse in Super league I'd also like to see them form part of an increasingly stronger Elite as clubs like Lezignan. Limoux, Avignon improve on and off the field. Such conflicting ideas! The championship should be the main tool for giving a professional pathway to growing league areas. Another championship Welsh team seems logical, a few other cities also stick out like Bristol and conventry. Scotland is growing all the time and is certainly leagues ahead of Ireland. A scottish championship team in the next five years seems quite reasonable and not as far fetched as saying an Irish championship team.



ParraEelsNRL	May 20 2011, 10:16 PM Post #24
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	France aren't that far away from going pro, all they need is money from TV and it could be done in no time. Most teams in the LER have a much bigger cap than the championship sides in England.



ParraEelsNRL	May 20 2011, 10:17 PM Post #25
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	Money money money. We need money.



Ashulster	May 20 2011, 11:01 PM Post #26
International Junior Posts: 339 Group: Members Member #444 Joined: Nov 8, 2010	ParraEelsNRL May 20 2011, 10:17 PM Money money money. We need money. Haha, very true! Sadly that's the truth of modern spot, money is most definitely required to get anywhere! I'm sure if anyone on this forum had a vast amonut of money they wouldn't mind bankrolling a few pro comps or teams! Anyone out there by chance?!



Polynesian Warriors	May 24 2011, 12:22 AM Post #27
International Expert Posts: 2,427 Group: Members Member #231 Joined: Mar 11, 2010	maybe the wellington orcas billionaire could help. where has he gone? the guy that was behind the wellington superleague and nrl bid is the same guy who came up with the idea to show school 1st xv rugby live on sky tv in new zealand which has been a huge hit and its one of the commentators. Edited by Polynesian Warriors, May 24 2011, 12:25 AM.



Rugby League Nut	May 24 2011, 07:14 AM Post #28
Administrator Posts: 6,290 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Jul 25, 2009	GFC must have hit him!
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ParraEelsNRL	May 24 2011, 05:44 PM Post #29
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	Why is this clown allowed to troll outside the Union/League part? Can't you see what he's up to? The knob does the exact same thing at every RL forum, Union forum, Newspaper or blog. Give it a rest ffs.



deluded pom	May 26 2011, 03:09 AM Post #30
International Expert Posts: 1,070 Group: Members Member #222 Joined: Feb 4, 2010	Mortlad Apr 1 2011, 03:27 PM Ashulster Mar 31 2011, 05:12 PM Super League isn't anywhere near ready for expansion. I think the biggest thing stopping Toulouse is their stadium which they are finding difficult to get. If they had a 10,000 seater stadium the RFL would probably let them in right now! 14 is fine for now I think. There are far too many poor quality games in super league without increasing that number with more teams. They are expanding the championships next year though. London based Hemel stags are looknig to make the step up which would mean three London clubs in the pro ranks and an interesting derby with the Skolars. Biggest thing about this expansion is the RFL apperently don't want anymore Yorks or Lancs clubs. They want each league to be 12 teams. So Hemel would take Championship 1 to 12 clubs. Lezignan could make the Championship up to 12 (rumours) though if Toulouse left it would go back down to 11 (more rumours) So its Widnes Vikings, which county is that in? Good to hear of another London club coming through. Just like France southern England/London needs 2 clubs eventually in the super league Widnes is in Cheshire and is a stone's throw away from Warrington, Wigan and Saints. I wouldn't class Hemel as a London team either. Southern yes. London no. As has been stated there's not enough money in British RL to fund all your ambitious plans any time soon guys and there won't be for a very long time.
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International League	May 26 2011, 11:35 AM Post #31
International Senior Posts: 620 Group: Members Member #159 Joined: Nov 7, 2009	ParraEelsNRL May 24 2011, 05:44 PM Why is this clown allowed to troll outside the Union/League part? Can't you see what he's up to? The knob does the exact same thing at every RL forum, Union forum, Newspaper or blog. Give it a rest ffs. What are you talking about?



deluded pom	May 26 2011, 05:43 PM Post #32
International Expert Posts: 1,070 Group: Members Member #222 Joined: Feb 4, 2010	International League May 26 2011, 11:35 AM ParraEelsNRL May 24 2011, 05:44 PM Why is this clown allowed to troll outside the Union/League part? Can't you see what he's up to? The knob does the exact same thing at every RL forum, Union forum, Newspaper or blog. Give it a rest ffs. What are you talking about? He means Polynesian Warriors. He has a history of sidetracking threads with RU spin.
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Mortlad	May 29 2011, 01:05 AM Post #33
International Junior Posts: 368 Group: Members Member #540 Joined: Mar 29, 2011	crusher Apr 1 2011, 09:07 PM a side in the ipswich/logan corridor is almost a must rugby league is by far and away the biggest sport up here we have lots of juniors (increasing each year and won,t take lots of broncos. but games against broncos titans will be a sell out straight away. Totally agree! Western Corridor would also bring back a team (in the Qld cup) to the rugby league heartland of Toowoomba! I probably dont need to remind you folk that Toowoomba during 1924-5 defeated Victoria, South Sydney, NSW, New Zealand and Great Britain. Along time ago but the history is and always will be there!
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NRL-TGG	Jan 20 2012, 06:51 PM Post #34
International Expert Posts: 1,064 Group: Members Member #732 Joined: Oct 10, 2011	chris sanders Jan 20 2012, 06:43 PM So when is Toowoomba going to play the likes of GB and NZ ever again?In the year 3024??Shows how backwards our game has gone because it's run by backward people who are always at odds with good salt of the earth Rugby League folk who know better! So what has old tours that the game has moved on from got to do with Super League expansion?



chris sanders	Jan 20 2012, 07:19 PM Post #35
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	That's the whole point!SL is not expanding and tours use to spread the game even in the old days!



ParraEelsNRL	Jan 20 2012, 08:17 PM Post #36
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	Yet clubs and organisations under SL go to all corners of the world every year doing their bit. Strange huh?



NRL-TGG	Jan 20 2012, 08:20 PM Post #37
International Expert Posts: 1,064 Group: Members Member #732 Joined: Oct 10, 2011	chris sanders Jan 20 2012, 07:19 PM That's the whole point!SL is not expanding and tours use to spread the game even in the old days! Now I am confused. Your "whole point" was to take this thread off topic?



chris sanders	Jan 21 2012, 03:25 AM Post #38
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	Yeah right!Never seen one in Russia,Tatarstan or the Ukraine since 1999.London Scholars went to Kazan in 1999 and stayed at the Safar Hotel and donated a lot of gear to Strela!



ParraEelsNRL	Jan 21 2012, 12:34 PM Post #39
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	Barla was in the Ukraine last year as well as Russia.



chris sanders	Jan 21 2012, 03:36 PM Post #40
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	We are talking NRL,SL and Semi-Professional sides Parra!A combined Fulham/York side visited the Soviet Union in 1991 where they played 3 games against the Russian National side in Moscow which drew over 20,000 at the Olympic Stadium!The Russians were quite competitive in that game losing to the Fulham/York side by only a few points,then in the second match they played a Tatarstan selection in Kazan,and in the final game in Kazakhstan,the Stars of Asia side ran Fulham/York close or may of won!I can't quite remember.The tour cost English Rugby League 50,000 pounds as they were ripped of going from border to border by the authorities, as Russia was very much a lawless state during those times. In 1999, London Scholars went to Kazan where they donated much gear,equipment and balls to Strela Kazan which virtually saved the game there and now they are playing Rugby 7's on the 7's circuit throughout the Russia Federation! Apart from that,I haven't seen much evidence of the Professional game spreading it's wings into virgin territories at all even with exhibition games and the like! To the contrary!



ParraEelsNRL	Jan 21 2012, 05:20 PM Post #41
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	No we are not, we are talking Rugby League.



ParraEelsNRL	Jan 21 2012, 05:22 PM Post #42
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	Why would a professional team go to some amateur nation and beat the living shiit out of them? What good would that do?



ParraEelsNRL	Jan 21 2012, 06:14 PM Post #43
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	It's their own fault.



chris sanders	Jan 21 2012, 06:54 PM Post #44
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	What about the people that went there, all towed on the free ride, by Akhmet Kamaldinov,Elina Levina and Vladimir Dolgan as their big advisors.They were Sel and Ivy Bennett,Bob and Judy Bailey and it didn't help matters with the others Like Sel Pearson,the late Keith Pittman,Phil Campbell and the 2 McGregors,all from Auckland RL and NZRL, undermining everything in the background so they could get a slice of the pie, without worrying about RRL at all which was the first nail in the coffin! And who got blame for all of this?Me and Egueny Kelabanov from Locomotive RL.There's more to it than meets the eye and there are always 2 sides to every story! Ok Parra!



chris sanders	Jan 22 2012, 08:04 AM Post #45
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	And how much did they all put in for Russian Rugby League Parra?Sixpence half-penny each?They were all take and no give with short arms and long pockets,all there on the clip of the meal ticket and who's this good samatarian who has pledged to give RRL a substantial amount in American dollars(5 figured)to try and keep the sport alive there Parra? Has the penny droppped yet??



t.romun	Jan 22 2012, 01:14 PM Post #46
International Novice Posts: 74 Group: Members Member #803 Joined: Dec 12, 2011	chris sanders Jan 22 2012, 08:04 AM And how much did they all put in for Russian Rugby League Parra?Sixpence half-penny each?They were all take and no give with short arms and long pockets,all there on the clip of the meal ticket and who's this good samatarian who has pledged to give RRL a substantial amount in American dollars(5 figured)to try and keep the sport alive there Parra? Has the penny droppped yet?? You haven't changed. Criticising everything and everyone to do with RL. Join a netball team.



chris sanders	Jan 22 2012, 03:26 PM Post #47
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	Well!I can't help it that we got idiots running our game and that Netball have great administrators running their game and they are growing and we aren't!



NRL-TGG	Jan 22 2012, 05:15 PM Post #48
International Expert Posts: 1,064 Group: Members Member #732 Joined: Oct 10, 2011	Rugby League is not growing. HA!



chris sanders	Jan 22 2012, 05:44 PM Post #49
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	Well I don't know what planet you are on and the IRB made a $200 million profit at the RWC and we made only a $5 million profit in 2008 for our WC!Rugby Union is growing everywhere, except here in NZ where it's declining as Netball,Cricket and Soccer are well ahead!



chris sanders	Jan 22 2012, 05:47 PM Post #50
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	And of course Rugby League is not growing and I prepared to challenge the NZRL over this!



t.romun	Jan 22 2012, 06:59 PM Post #51
International Novice Posts: 74 Group: Members Member #803 Joined: Dec 12, 2011	chris sanders Jan 22 2012, 05:47 PM And of course Rugby League is not growing and I prepared to challenge the NZRL over this! Whatever - you give long winded opinions and state them as though they're fact. Do you remain involved in RL threads because you think all administrators are full of shit and RL desperately wants your valuable opinions? Don't forget to answer with fuck and shit a few times.



NRL-TGG	Jan 22 2012, 07:06 PM Post #52
International Expert Posts: 1,064 Group: Members Member #732 Joined: Oct 10, 2011	chris sanders Jan 22 2012, 05:44 PM Well I don't know what planet you are on and the IRB made a $200 million profit at the RWC and we made only a $5 million profit in 2008 for our WC!Rugby Union is growing everywhere, except here in NZ where it's declining as Netball,Cricket and Soccer are well ahead! So are you saying that Rugby League is not growing anywhere? Despite the fact that participation rates are going up in Australia, the USA, Europe and France over the last few years? The IRB's profit off their world cup has nothing to do with whether or not Rugby League is growing. You are way off topic once again, and stop talking about your little court case with the NZRL and prepare for it. Edited by NRL-TGG, Jan 22 2012, 07:07 PM.



chris sanders	Jan 22 2012, 08:04 PM Post #53
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	Is that right!There would be lucky if there were 2,000 Rugby League players throughout the whole of Europe excluding the likes of England,Wales,Scotland,Ireland and France!You lot talk tough behind nome de plumes and for what it's worth t.romun,I am an administrator and you are a novice in the game and I was in the game long before you were born! You got a lot to learn and you are the apprentice and I'm the master. Tell me what other administrators that come on to this site?Gallop,Carr,McDonald,Lewis or Carter?



NRL-TGG	Jan 22 2012, 08:17 PM Post #54
International Expert Posts: 1,064 Group: Members Member #732 Joined: Oct 10, 2011	oh what a load of garbage. How deluded is this guy. If you can't see that right now Rugby League is spread further then it ever has been at one time and a more people are involved in Rugby League now then ever before then no body on here can help you. Go see a Doc. You are not a sporting administrator. You are a volunteer who is easily replaceable unlike those real sport administrators that you have listed, presuming of course what you say is true. Take your beef with the NZRL elsewhere.



chris sanders	Jan 22 2012, 08:33 PM Post #55
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	Not if I put my hands in my own pockets for the sake of the game unlike other administrators looking for the clip of the meal ticket!People see value in me just like your moderators and ya mate Polly!Where's he?On holiday or coaching the children at the grassroots??



ParraEelsNRL	Jan 22 2012, 10:33 PM Post #56
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	No wonder RL is dying if this guy is an administrator.



t.romun	Jan 22 2012, 10:59 PM Post #57
International Novice Posts: 74 Group: Members Member #803 Joined: Dec 12, 2011	chris sanders Jan 22 2012, 08:04 PM Is that right!There would be lucky if there were 2,000 Rugby League players throughout the whole of Europe excluding the likes of England,Wales,Scotland,Ireland and France!You lot talk tough behind nome de plumes and for what it's worth t.romun,I am an administrator and you are a novice in the game and I was in the game long before you were born! You got a lot to learn and you are the apprentice and I'm the master. Tell me what other administrators that come on to this site?Gallop,Carr,McDonald,Lewis or Carter? You are an RL administrator? In plain, unambiguous terms what is your title and which body do you hold it with? Bet you don't answer. My name is clearly on the articles I have linked to this site. Never been a secret. The site admins see value in u do they? They banned you after two weeks on the forum. Even if you were right with all your negative opinions abt RL administrators, don't you ever get sick of being so angry all the time?



bowen1	Jan 23 2012, 08:25 AM Post #58
International Expert Posts: 1,328 Group: Members Member #637 Joined: Jul 1, 2011	Chris you are not an administrator of Rugby League and you don't pay anything. Stop talking.
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International League	Jan 23 2012, 11:27 AM Post #59
International Senior Posts: 620 Group: Members Member #159 Joined: Nov 7, 2009	Back on topic Super League need to work on a way to increase their current crowd figures before they look at expanding. I have no solution, however I just feel that their current figures are too low for a professional sport.



ICCrash	Jan 23 2012, 01:03 PM Post #60
International Novice Posts: 195 Group: Members Member #816 Joined: Dec 30, 2011	International League Jan 23 2012, 11:27 AM Back on topic Super League need to work on a way to increase their current crowd figures before they look at expanding. I have no solution, however I just feel that their current figures are too low for a professional sport. I'd love to see a similar effort in Super League as what they do from time to time in Australia: Play in non traditional locations. You may not fill the stadium, but if you were able to get a deal for Widnes and Hull to play a game a year at Vicarage road for example, you would increase the areas which can watch top flight rugby league. Throw in a opener (i.e. make it a double header) of a local team (in this case Hemel Stags V someone else) and you increase their visibility to the crowd who travel to the Widnes and Hull away games anyway.
	Iowa City Crash - US Midwest Rugby League Club


Ashulster	Jan 23 2012, 01:05 PM Post #61
International Junior Posts: 339 Group: Members Member #444 Joined: Nov 8, 2010	International League Jan 23 2012, 11:27 AM Back on topic Super League need to work on a way to increase their current crowd figures before they look at expanding. I have no solution, however I just feel that their current figures are too low for a professional sport. If you think Super league's attendances are too low they'd you would be truly shocked by some of the attendances in the pro12, which is the highest level of domestic rugby union in 4 countries. I don't want to deteur to union too much though as it happens far too much on this forum. Back onto Super league itself and I'm wondering if the RFL will have the guts to remove clubs like Wakefield/Castleford and anyone else who makes promises and fails to fulfil them in the next license period. Both these clubs have been promising stadia since 2008, probably even before, they now have until 2014/15 to do so and if they haven't delivered then their are hungry championship clubs waiting in the wings.



International League	Jan 23 2012, 03:32 PM Post #62
International Senior Posts: 620 Group: Members Member #159 Joined: Nov 7, 2009	ICCrash Jan 23 2012, 01:03 PM International League Jan 23 2012, 11:27 AM Back on topic Super League need to work on a way to increase their current crowd figures before they look at expanding. I have no solution, however I just feel that their current figures are too low for a professional sport. I'd love to see a similar effort in Super League as what they do from time to time in Australia: Play in non traditional locations. You may not fill the stadium, but if you were able to get a deal for Widnes and Hull to play a game a year at Vicarage road for example, you would increase the areas which can watch top flight rugby league. Throw in a opener (i.e. make it a double header) of a local team (in this case Hemel Stags V someone else) and you increase their visibility to the crowd who travel to the Widnes and Hull away games anyway. Yep, you are right, they need to have more interesting/different/appealing games. Eg. double headers, games in different locations, kids in free weekends, and anything else that can spark peoples interest. Double headers is a big one for me, they can really get people in.



chris sanders	Jan 23 2012, 03:37 PM Post #63
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	No one will replace me on the Russian Rugby League Board of Control as I am the only one on the outside pumping money into it trying to keep the sport alive there and that's if we can.If RRL can't keep afloat it will be gone by the end of the year and in the last 10 years we have seen the demise of sport in Tatarstan,Dagestan,Murial Republic,Georgia,Latvia,Belarus,Estonia,Austria,Belgium,Catalonia,Spain,New Caledonia,Kazakhstan and Moldovia! Quite a list as we have got idiots on the RLIF and the RLEF running our game into the ground because they don't know what the hell they are doing.



NRL-TGG	Jan 23 2012, 04:40 PM Post #64
International Expert Posts: 1,064 Group: Members Member #732 Joined: Oct 10, 2011	chris sanders Jan 22 2012, 08:33 PM Not if I put my hands in my own pockets for the sake of the game unlike other administrators looking for the clip of the meal ticket!People see value in me just like your moderators and ya mate Polly!Where's he?On holiday or coaching the children at the grassroots?? He was sent to the sin bin for breaking the rules. I'm betting you might be sent there again or perhaps even given a red card. Can't happen soon enough imo.



NRL-TGG	Jan 23 2012, 04:41 PM Post #65
International Expert Posts: 1,064 Group: Members Member #732 Joined: Oct 10, 2011	chris sanders Jan 23 2012, 03:37 PM No one will replace me on the Russian Rugby League Board of Control as I am the only one on the outside pumping money into it trying to keep the sport alive there and that's if we can.If RRL can't keep afloat it will be gone by the end of the year and in the last 10 years we have seen the demise of sport in Tatarstan,Dagestan,Murial Republic,Georgia,Latvia,Belarus,Estonia,Austria,Belgium,Catalonia,Spain,New Caledonia,Kazakhstan and Moldovia!<br />Quite a list as we have got idiots on the RLIF and the RLEF running our game into the ground because they don't know what the hell they are doing. What is your title? ... that was the question.



chris sanders	Jan 23 2012, 05:11 PM Post #66
International Junior Posts: 455 Group: Members Member #820 Joined: Jan 1, 2012	Go and ask Edgar Tatariyan and John Slade and what's ya title in Rugby League?



ParraEelsNRL	Jan 23 2012, 06:42 PM Post #67
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	International League Jan 23 2012, 11:27 AM Back on topic Super League need to work on a way to increase their current crowd figures before they look at expanding. I have no solution, however I just feel that their current figures are too low for a professional sport. They jump up heaps this season and end up over the 10k mark easily.



t.romun	Jan 23 2012, 07:00 PM Post #68
International Novice Posts: 74 Group: Members Member #803 Joined: Dec 12, 2011	chris sanders Jan 23 2012, 05:11 PM Go and ask Edgar Tatariyan and John Slade and what's ya title in Rugby League? As we thought - you throw your weight around saying 'I'm an experienced RL administrator and your not' or words to that effect, but you cannot state what title you hold in RL. At least we've been honest that we are simply supporters.



Rugby League Nut	Jan 23 2012, 08:16 PM Post #69
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okalabino	Jan 24 2012, 01:53 AM Post #70
International Novice Posts: 57 Group: Members Member #210 Joined: Jan 26, 2010	thanks rugby league nut hate coming on here and reading a good topic only to see people like him change it and talk absloute crap



ICCrash	Jan 24 2012, 02:33 AM Post #71
International Novice Posts: 195 Group: Members Member #816 Joined: Dec 30, 2011	International League Jan 23 2012, 03:32 PM ICCrash Jan 23 2012, 01:03 PM International League Jan 23 2012, 11:27 AM Back on topic Super League need to work on a way to increase their current crowd figures before they look at expanding. I have no solution, however I just feel that their current figures are too low for a professional sport. I'd love to see a similar effort in Super League as what they do from time to time in Australia: Play in non traditional locations. You may not fill the stadium, but if you were able to get a deal for Widnes and Hull to play a game a year at Vicarage road for example, you would increase the areas which can watch top flight rugby league. Throw in a opener (i.e. make it a double header) of a local team (in this case Hemel Stags V someone else) and you increase their visibility to the crowd who travel to the Widnes and Hull away games anyway. Yep, you are right, they need to have more interesting/different/appealing games. Eg. double headers, games in different locations, kids in free weekends, and anything else that can spark peoples interest. Double headers is a big one for me, they can really get people in. To steal something from AFL, which I thought of when you mentioned Kids in Free days, is having a longer half time break, but having a Juniors team (maybe under 10's) playing a mini game during the break. This may increase parents coming to the games to watch their kids, as well as extended family. Just another weapon for the arsenal!
	Iowa City Crash - US Midwest Rugby League Club


NRL-TGG	Jan 24 2012, 07:56 PM Post #72
International Expert Posts: 1,064 Group: Members Member #732 Joined: Oct 10, 2011	There are already mini-games of Rugby League played on NRL fields before and at halftime of matches.



ICCrash	Jan 25 2012, 12:17 AM Post #73
International Novice Posts: 195 Group: Members Member #816 Joined: Dec 30, 2011	NRL-TGG Jan 24 2012, 07:56 PM There are already mini-games of Rugby League played on NRL fields before and at halftime of matches. Shows how long it's been since I've actually made it out to a game!
	Iowa City Crash - US Midwest Rugby League Club


ParraEelsNRL	Jan 25 2012, 12:34 AM Post #74
International Expert Posts: 2,265 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: May 9, 2011	Haha, it looks cute, all these little kids running up and down between the 10 metre lines with footballs and jumper as big as them with trainers and co yelling out, this way johnny this way lol.



NRL-TGG	Jan 25 2012, 12:39 AM Post #75
International Expert Posts: 1,064 Group: Members Member #732 Joined: Oct 10, 2011	I remember one game the stand I was in was packed and during the halftime mini-game between the kids, one 7 or 8 year old made a break down the sideline (the 10 metre mark line on the full NRL field) and run the whole field to score a try. Got a huge cheer from the stand.



International League	Jan 25 2012, 07:10 AM Post #76
International Senior Posts: 620 Group: Members Member #159 Joined: Nov 7, 2009	I don't think enough thought is put into halftime and pre game entertainment. They need to take advantage of using kids more. I am talking a thousand kids (a whole school) singing in a choir or a dance troop. This entertainment is good clean fun and it's free. But best of all the kids love being in front of a big crowd which means RL is seen in a positive light.



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