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2012 ANZAC Test Match - Australia v New Zealand
Topic Started: Jun 19 2011, 07:24 AM (4,620 Views)
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It's about time it was held on a stand-a-lone weekend.

Now they need to have other international games over the same weekend.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/david-gallop-responds-to-concerns-over-player-burnout/story-e6frexv9-1226077580942

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NRL boss David Gallop has finally acted on the growing anger over player burnout by switching next year's Anzac Test match and City-Country to a stand-alone weekend.

And from 2013, Origin matches will be switched to Monday nights to give players at least four days to recover for their club games.

The Sunday Telegraph has learned senior NRL staff have been working on a major scheduling overhaul for weeks after an avalanche of complaints from players and coaches about the workload on rep stars.

Gallop will meet Channel Nine boss David Gyngell and Fox Sports executives next week to brief them on the proposed changes before the clubs are informed at next month's chief executives' meeting.

From next year, the Australia-New Zealand Test will be played on a Friday night with City-County to follow on Sunday afternoon. All clubs will have a bye that weekend.


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It's about time it was held on a stand-a-lone weekend.

Now they need to have other international games over the same weekend.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/david-gallop-responds-to-concerns-over-player-burnout/story-e6frexv9-1226077580942

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NRL boss David Gallop has finally acted on the growing anger over player burnout by switching next year's Anzac Test match and City-Country to a stand-alone weekend.

And from 2013, Origin matches will be switched to Monday nights to give players at least four days to recover for their club games.

The Sunday Telegraph has learned senior NRL staff have been working on a major scheduling overhaul for weeks after an avalanche of complaints from players and coaches about the workload on rep stars.

Gallop will meet Channel Nine boss David Gyngell and Fox Sports executives next week to brief them on the proposed changes before the clubs are informed at next month's chief executives' meeting.

From next year, the Australia-New Zealand Test will be played on a Friday night with City-County to follow on Sunday afternoon. All clubs will have a bye that weekend.


Nows the time for the Island nations to schedule some games that weekend. Free hit Saturday!
The South (of France) shall rise again!
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Really pleased with this news! Glad the NRL has finally shown some initiative! Could have done a few more things but a step in the right direction!
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You would have to think its just a matter of time before we see 3 or 4 rep games that weekend. Perhaps maori vs aboriginals, samoa vs tonga, fiji vs png...
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Jun 19 2011, 12:03 PM
You would have to think its just a matter of time before we see 3 or 4 rep games that weekend. Perhaps maori vs aboriginals, samoa vs tonga, fiji vs png...
That would be good.And if they have the S.O.O on a stand alone weekend then we can have the same teams Fiji vs PNG etc...playing aswell.Include OZ based Malta,Lebanon,Italy etc... and maybe U20 teams playing too.We need to start making the international game the pinnacle of rugby league.
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Good stuff, now the match will get a full weeks build up with city vs country the only other game discussed.

By acting on this player burnout issue they have also given the ANZAC test the place it deserves.
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You would have to think its just a matter of time before we see 3 or 4 rep games that weekend. Perhaps maori vs aboriginals, samoa vs tonga, fiji vs png...
That would be good.And if they have the S.O.O on a stand alone weekend then we can have the same teams Fiji vs PNG etc...playing aswell.Include OZ based Malta,Lebanon,Italy etc... and maybe U20 teams playing too.We need to start making the international game the pinnacle of rugby league.
i dont think the origin will ever be held on a friday or saturday because the ratings will not be as high as wednesday or monday.
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You would have to think its just a matter of time before we see 3 or 4 rep games that weekend. Perhaps maori vs aboriginals, samoa vs tonga, fiji vs png...
That would be good.And if they have the S.O.O on a stand alone weekend then we can have the same teams Fiji vs PNG etc...playing aswell.Include OZ based Malta,Lebanon,Italy etc... and maybe U20 teams playing too.We need to start making the international game the pinnacle of rugby league.
i dont think the origin will ever be held on a friday or saturday because the ratings will not be as high as wednesday or monday.
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SOO has been held on Saturdays, Fridays, Tuesday, Sundays and probably every other day of the week before.

It should stay on Wednesdays though.
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I would agree with it being held on a Monday as it gives the Origin players two more days rest than wednesday,pretty much like a monday nite NRL game then backing up on Fri-Sat-Sun...
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You would have to think its just a matter of time before we see 3 or 4 rep games that weekend. Perhaps maori vs aboriginals, samoa vs tonga, fiji vs png...
Maori's came from the Cook Islands so, Maori's v Cooks, Samoa v Tonga, Fiji v PNG
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well the good news is that is already starting.

Steve mascoud wrote in his column that a double header is now being planned for that weekend at mt smart stadium. Samoa v tonga and junior kiwis v junior kangaroos
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well the good news is that is already starting.

Steve mascoud wrote in his column that a double header is now being planned for that weekend at mt smart stadium. Samoa v tonga and junior kiwis v junior kangaroos
That is really good news. I would really like to see a few more pacific nation play. Would be good for PNG to play Fiji aswell. We'll have to wait and see.
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/5392747/Christchurch-could-lose-Anzac-rugby-league-test

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Christchurch could lose Anzac rugby league test


Rugby league authorities will have to reluctantly move next year's Anzac Test from Christchurch if AMI Stadium is not available.

The clash between the Kiwis and the Kangaroos was due to be held in the city last May but had to be moved to the Gold Coast because of damage at AMI Stadium in the February 22 earthquake. But the New Zealand and Australian Rugby Leagues pledged to bring the match back to Christchurch in 2012.

New Zealand Rugby League (NZRL) chief executive Jim Doyle said yesterday that was still their intention – but it was dependent on the availability of AMI Stadium.

"We are, in a sense, reviewing our Plan B, and are waiting for feedback from the Christchurch City Council as to their definite plans for the stadium."

Doyle said with nine months to go before the Anzac test there was no urgency – yet.

"We would like to leave it as late as possible because we would really like to have the test match there."

A number of critical factors would determine if the test could be staged in Christchurch, including whether the stadium was going to be rebuilt in time, its capacity which had ramifications "from a commercial point of view" and the "timeline for finishing it", he said.

If the test – traditionally staged in Australia around the date of the Anzac Day commemoration – could not go ahead in Christchurch the NZRL would like to stage it elsewhere in New Zealand, Doyle said.

They would look at every available alternate venue, including Dunedin's new Forsyth Barr stadium.

"If Christchurch isn't available and we could go to a venue relatively close to Christchurch, that's maybe something we could look at to show our support."

But Doyle stressed that Christchurch remained the NZRL's first choice. "When we took last year's Anzac test to the Gold Coast, we said we would bring next year's test back to Christchurch. But obviously, none of us were aware then of the [impact of] aftershocks and earthquakes that have occurred since."


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It's pretty much looking like AMI Stadium is going to be a complete write off, and a new stadium at a new location is going to replace it.

Taking the game to Dunedin is probably what will happen.
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ive been wanting a game in dunedin for many years now. although its sad wahts happended in christchurch, a first class league game down in dunedin will be great to see
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Would RL get the support in Dunedin?

I thought it was wall to wall RU heartland down there.
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It is die hard union and I think I read a recent study that advised that union is the only sport able to attract a significant crowd down there. I think it would draw a full house though. If only for novelty value. The kiwis and kangaroos coming to town doesn't happen very often. If also like to see an nrl game at carisbrook in the future.
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You would have to think its just a matter of time before we see 3 or 4 rep games that weekend. Perhaps maori vs aboriginals, samoa vs tonga, fiji vs png...
we don't need a maori v aboriginal game lets stop taking two steps back........
we need countries playing countries ... internationals need to be the Pinnacle of our game........
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You would have to think its just a matter of time before we see 3 or 4 rep games that weekend. Perhaps maori vs aboriginals, samoa vs tonga, fiji vs png...
we don't need a maori v aboriginal game lets stop taking two steps back........
we need countries playing countries ... internationals need to be the Pinnacle of our game........
Yeah fair point. I'm gonna backtrack here and agree with you.
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Yep I have to say ideally the PI nations should be getting games during this period. Even more so in the leadup to the World cup in 2013.
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Looks like the ANZAC test has a gig chance of going to Dunedin

http://www.odt.co.nz/sport/league/172956/league-stadium-touted-test-venue

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International rugby league, showcasing some of the superstars of the game, could be in the frame for next year's Dunedin sporting calendar, because of doubts about the availability of AMI Stadium in Christchurch.
Those doubts were confirmed yesterday afternoon, after engineers recommended to the Christchurch City Council the Hadlee stand at AMI Stadium be demolished, and a Christchurch city councillor said the stadium would not be available for the 2012 season.

New Zealand Rugby League chief executive Jim Doyle yesterday said discussions with Dunedin Venues Management Ltd were ‘‘very, very preliminary'', but the stadium was one being considered for next year's Anzac test between the Kiwis and the Kangaroos.

Both Forsyth Barr Stadium management and league southern zone general manager Steve Martin were yesterday very keen to attract the match.

DVML chief executive David Davies said: ‘‘We absolutely want to bring it here. It's an iconic event.''

The annual league clash between New Zealand and Australia was moved from Christchurch to the Gold Coast in May, after the AMI Stadium sustained serious damage in the February 22 earthquake.

The NZRL said at the time both it and the Australian Rugby League were committed to returning the Anzac test to Christchurch next year, but Doyle said yesterday other New Zealand stadiums were now being considered.

Doyle emphasised the NZRL was also still talking to AMI Stadium administrators, but from the NZRL's point of view, keeping the game in the South Island, so Christchurch people could still attend, would be a positive option.

He said Martin was also ‘‘pretty keen'' on the option.

Martin said yesterday he would ‘‘absolutely'' advocate the idea of the game being held at the Forsyth Barr Stadium.

‘‘I can probably say I've been aware of the fact there's been discussions between the NZRL and DVML.

‘‘It would be very exciting for the league and the sporting community if the Anzac test could be played at the Forsyth Barr Stadium.''

From his time as coach of the Otago rugby team, he was aware plenty of rugby fans from Christchurch travelled to Dunedin for test matches at Carisbrook, and he expected the same would happen for rugby league.

There had been growth of the game in the South, and the discussions showed that was recognised by the national body.

Davies said while he could not discuss business negotiations, ‘‘every effort is being made to bring the game to Dunedin''.

He expected to find out ‘‘sooner rather than later'' whether the event would be booked, as the NZRL would not want the matter left unresolved for long.

Doyle said he expected a decision to be made ‘‘in a couple of weeks'', though he was not in a rush.
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The venue itself will sell the game, not sure if you guys know much about it but it's the worlds first fully enclosed indoor stadium to have grass. No retractable roof, instead has a transparent roof to allow sunlight in.

Built for the RWC and just about the only construction project I've heard of that was completed on time and on budget. There is now talk of replacing AMI Stadium in Christchurch with something similar in the 40,000-45,000 seat range.

Forsyth Barr Stadium
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wow , seriosuly impressed.
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They have successfully addressed two of the reasons why enclosed stadiums have trouble growing a decent turf, which is direct sunlight and airflow to help grass grow. The reason the stadium is lop sided with a lower stand on one side is to allow more direct sunlight onto the turf during the winter months when the sun is low across the eastern sky. There are also large gaps in the stadium at each corner to allow airflow for the grass, I think they can be closed during games to keep it warm and keep the wind out.

The grass that is in there now was grown inside the stadium, proving that the whole system works.

I need to make an amendment about this being the first enclosed stadium with grass in the world, it was tried once before with the astrodome in Houston back in the 60's. Only they couldn't get the grass to grow and had to replace it with astroturf.
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You would have to think this stadium would be biding on more events than tge anzac test in future.let's hope this is the first if many league games stages down in dunedin over the next decade.
I wonder if the crusaders are going to pay some ' home' games there.
Quite appetising that this stadium is built in dunedin. No disrespect to dunedin but its pretty much a country town
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TEST FOR KIWI OFFICIALS

Dunedin is under consideration to host next May's trans-Tasman Test after Christchurch's AMI Stadium was declared out of action for at least another year due to earthquake damage. NZRL officials are considering a number of alternative venues but are keen to play the Test in the South Island after also shifting this year's mid-season Test from Christchurch to the Gold Coast. Meanwhile, tickets are on sale for Kangaroos captain Darren Lockyer's last appearance on Australian soil in Newcastle on October 16.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/widders-gets-a-farewell-gift-he-really-didnt-want-20110811-1iowe.html#ixzz1UmSVXVpp
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They should consider taking a few NRL games down to Dunedin. It is going to make a world of difference for quality football in winter with a nice dry field with no wind, and being located in University plaza it is very well situated and will draw crowds for almost any event (as long as they price then competitively).
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Dunedin continues to firm as venue for 2012 ANZAC test

http://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/180155/league-stadium-firms-venue-anzac-test

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Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium has firmed as a contender for next year's Anzac test between the Kiwis and the Kangaroos.
The New Zealand Rugby League confirmed yesterday the stadium was in a two-horse race with Eden Park to host the test and, while the stadium faces the might of Auckland, the situation appears to have grown more favourable in the past few weeks.

Dunedin Venues Management Ltd chief executive David Davies said yesterday he was "really glad" to hear that news.

With confirmation yesterday the Wellington Phoenix and Brisbane Roar would play an A-League match at the stadium in December, Davies said it showed people had been watching what had been happening in the city during the Rugby World Cup, and the way the public had responded.

He said stadium representatives would be travelling to Australia in November to have further discussions with rugby league representatives, looking for opportunities to bring top-level league to Dunedin.

News on the Anzac test was expected yesterday, but NZRL chief executive Jim Doyle was headed to Australia, and marketing manager Trina Tamati said the league would wait until after the Rugby World Cup to make a final decision.
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Dunedin continues to firm as venue for 2012 ANZAC test

http://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/180155/league-stadium-firms-venue-anzac-test

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Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium has firmed as a contender for next year's Anzac test between the Kiwis and the Kangaroos.
The New Zealand Rugby League confirmed yesterday the stadium was in a two-horse race with Eden Park to host the test and, while the stadium faces the might of Auckland, the situation appears to have grown more favourable in the past few weeks.

Dunedin Venues Management Ltd chief executive David Davies said yesterday he was "really glad" to hear that news.

With confirmation yesterday the Wellington Phoenix and Brisbane Roar would play an A-League match at the stadium in December, Davies said it showed people had been watching what had been happening in the city during the Rugby World Cup, and the way the public had responded.

He said stadium representatives would be travelling to Australia in November to have further discussions with rugby league representatives, looking for opportunities to bring top-level league to Dunedin.

News on the Anzac test was expected yesterday, but NZRL chief executive Jim Doyle was headed to Australia, and marketing manager Trina Tamati said the league would wait until after the Rugby World Cup to make a final decision.
I hope (key word HOPE) that this goes ahead. The NZRL track record in recent months hasn't been...very professional to say the least (remember the ANZAC game this year and the Cookies test). Hopefully they will turn their reputation around.

Then again the ARL isn't any better ^o)
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Eden Park to host Anzac test

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10778885

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Rugby League's Anzac test will be held at Eden Park on April 20th this year.

It's the first time a league test will be held there since the Kiwis test against the Kangaroos in 2010, where crowd behaviour was a major problem.

New Zealand Rugby League CEO Jim Doyle isn't expecting to have the same issues this time around.

He says security's improved a lot since then, and they will implement the lessons they learnt from that test.

Doyle's expecting a crowd of up to 40,000 people.
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Eden Park will host the Anzac Test this year!
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How can the NZRU allow this to happen?

hahahahahaha. Wouldn't be the first time Rugby League has been played there, or the second or third.

You know that Cricket was played there first. How could the NZC let this happen?
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The whole reason they expanded Eden Park was for the RWC.

Embarrassing that there is no RWC legacy left in NZ.

League and Cricket have defiled the fields.
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The whole reason they expanded Eden Park was for the RWC.

Embarrassing that there is no RWC legacy left in NZ.

League and Cricket have defiled the fields.
Do you realise that Rugby League was played at the upgraded Eden Park before the Rugby World Cup started?
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Then why is it such a issue for you that Rugby League is playing there again?

If you think there is no Rugby World Cup legacy in New Zealand, you obviously do not know New Zealand well.
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The NZ Rugby Union does not own Eden Park.Cricket once did but now the taxpayer does!!In fact the NZRU own no major ground here in NZ, but Rugby League do and that's Carlaw Park, which is owned by the Clubs of Auckland which is worth millions and millions and milions of dollars!!
This makes Auckland Rugby League the richest sport in New Zealand!
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The NZ Rugby Union does not own Eden Park.Cricket once did but now the taxpayer does!!In fact the NZRU own no major ground here in NZ, but Rugby League do and that's Carlaw Park, which is owned by the Clubs of Auckland which is worth millions and millions and milions of dollars!!
This makes Auckland Rugby League the richest sport in New Zealand!
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I tell the truth and Rugby Union own nothing in reguards to Eden Park.Not one blade of grass!!
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Its about time the NZRL get an Anzac Test in their own country!
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But who to blame over this?Our officials here in the Shakey Isles?They couldn't even organise a piss up in a brewry!No one has got any confidence in them including the Australian Rugby League!
Can't blame them for that!
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I was actually expecting dunedin to get the nod. Nzrl would most likely have made this decision purely on monetary grounds and fair enough too. I still would have loved to see such a high profile game played in dunedin. actually, has dunedin ever hosted a first class rugby league game?...
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I tell the truth and Rugby Union own nothing in reguards to Eden Park.Not one blade of grass!!
No is arguing against you here.
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I was actually expecting dunedin to get the nod. Nzrl would most likely have made this decision purely on monetary grounds and fair enough too. I still would have loved to see such a high profile game played in dunedin. actually, has dunedin ever hosted a first class rugby league game?...
I don't think so. I think I remember the owners or someone were in talks with a few NRL clubs at one stage. Seems to have come to nothing though.
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I thought Carlaw Park was sold and used as a car park these days, it's no longer looking anything like a RL ground.

The other RL ground is in Christchurch and the Union mob want the ground upgraded so they can play Stupor 15 on it.
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Only the no 2 ground was sold and the Clubs of Auckland still own 2/3rds of the land!It has been cross leased and the funds are in a trush and it was Terry Cuthbert's idea to do this in 2004 when all the Clubs wanted to sell the whole ground and divy up!
They would of then pissed all the proceeds up against the wall!As sure as eggs
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rugby league park in canterbury is own by the council also. im not sure but i think carrisbrook use to belong to otago rugby and might have sold it to the council.
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Rugby Union sold a lot of their grounds off years ago Polly.The Auckland Rugby Union sold their ground at Haast Street,Remuera in 1950 for 4,500 pounds to the College Rifles club here in Auckland and now it's a feehold ground worth millions and millions,which effectly makes College Rifles the richest Rugby Union club in the Country as it's considered prime real estate.
In the 1920's, Otago Rugby League were the richest Rugby League District in thewhole Country with their own ground and their own arch union or lottery.They loaned all their money to the NZRL which was never,ever paid back.The sport soon died off in the region and if it wasn't for the intervention of the 2 World Wars,Rugby League would of been the National Game!
Those photos of Carlaw Park were made some time ago and there has been much re-development work since.There's now an old folks home plus a hotel on it, of which the ARL get plenty of rent from, which amounts to about $2.5 million a year and the lease is renewed once every 4 years.
And you are right.The Council owns the Addington Showgrounds but I think the Canterbury Rugby League own the old Grandstands on it.This was the case with the old Rugby League Park in Wellington and now Wellington RU have moved into there.
It's now the Hurricanes Super 15 Rugby training ground!
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Rugby Union sold a lot of their grounds off years ago Polly.The Auckland Rugby Union sold their ground at Haast Street,Remuera in 1950 for 4,500 pounds to the College Rifles club here in Auckland and now it's a feehold ground worth millions and millions,which effectly makes College Rifles the richest Rugby Union club in the Country as it's considered prime real estate.
In the 1920's, Otago Rugby League were the richest Rugby League District in thewhole Country with their own ground and their own arch union or lottery.They loaned all their money to the NZRL which was never,ever paid back.The sport soon died off in the region and if it wasn't for the intervention of the 2 World Wars,Rugby League would of been the National Game!
Those photos of Carlaw Park were made some time ago and there has been much re-development work since.There's now an old folks home plus a hotel on it, of which the ARL get plenty of rent from, which amounts to about $2.5 million a year and the lease is renewed once every 4 years.
And you are right.The Council owns the Addington Showgrounds but I think the Canterbury Rugby League own the old Grandstands on it.This was the case with the old Rugby League Park in Wellington and now Wellington RU have moved into there.
It's now the Hurricanes Super 15 Rugby training ground!
didnt marist sold their home at liston park for $10 million and moved in with tamaki rugby?
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Jan 16 2012, 08:03 PM
Its about time the NZRL get an Anzac Test in their own country!
Hang on, in fairness let's remember why the ANZAC test wasn't played in NZ last year.
That's right, there was a massive earthquake in Christchurch a couple of months earlier and the city hadn't recovered (still hasn't).
The Gold Coast was the most viable alternative at short notice.
The NZRL flew 300 fans over to watch the game at Skilled.

The South (of France) shall rise again!
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OK.But we haven't had an Anzac Test here since 1998 when we beat Australia 22/16 at Albany,but it doesn't help matters when we had(and still have)idiots running our game and clearly the ARL had no confidence in them.Test Matches in Australia usually do make more money for the game,but nevertheless,there should be a full house sign at Eden Park come May!
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I thought the people at the ARL were idiots too?
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Much harder to ambush the Kiwis in a one off game if it is in NZ. Aussies prefer a not so level playing field.
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Agree with that, that's one of the many things I hate about Australian RL, we always stack the deck in our favour.
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Well blame our officials here in NZ about that because they are dumb Parra.John McDonald, the boss of Queensland Rugby League, is all right and so was Ross Livermore,the recently retired CEO of the Queensland Rugby League too andTas Baiteri,the Chief Development Officer of the RLIF, tells the truth and that's what we expect from our officials and employees in Rugby league because I also tell the truth!
We aren't asking much NRL-TGG!
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Should've rebuilt the stadium, what a great location.

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Well blame our officials here in NZ about that because they are dumb Parra.John McDonald, the boss of Queensland Rugby League, is all right and so was Ross Livermore,the recently retired CEO of the Queensland Rugby League too andTas Baiteri,the Chief Development Officer of the RLIF, tells the truth and that's what we expect from our officials and employees in Rugby league because I also tell the truth!
We aren't asking much NRL-TGG!
That doesn't answer any question I put forward.
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Jan 16 2012, 08:03 PM
Its about time the NZRL get an Anzac Test in their own country!
Hang on, in fairness let's remember why the ANZAC test wasn't played in NZ last year.
That's right, there was a massive earthquake in Christchurch a couple of months earlier and the city hadn't recovered (still hasn't).
The Gold Coast was the most viable alternative at short notice.
The NZRL flew 300 fans over to watch the game at Skilled.

True...however the game could have easily been played at Mt Smart Stadium or a stadium on the North Island. Gold Coast was a good option as it was the first time in recent memory of an international not being played in Sydney or Brisbane however i think more faith should have been given in the NZRL to hire a stadium and get a sizable crowd.

However...history is history and now they have this to look forward to!
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I think it will sell out and from here on in will be shared evenly between the two countries.

This is obviously a sign that RL has grown as a sport in NZ.
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Grown in people watching but not participating International League!A bit of a difference in my book and if they can't get 50,000 there's something wrong!
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50,000 is a bit optimistic. That would be the biggest crowd in NZRL history. I hope they do get a record crowd though. Eden Park is a bogey ground for both the kiwis and the warriors. Both teams have had big expectations in the past and have failed to deliver. Hopefully that changes when the Warriors play in round one.
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50,000 should be the benchmark.
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They could get more if the RL officials and overpaid employees were on the ball and used their brains for a change, because the Auckland Rugby League, who control the whole game here in NZ(the Auckland Mafia)should prop up the NZRL by donating a $50,000 car which is rafflled off at half-time if the punters put all their tickets into a big bin, which is then turned around and around and the winning ticket is then drawn out of the bin by a cop.Gimmicks like that bring bums on seats and this is what former RRL President,Akhmet Kamaldinov did in September 2002, when Russia played USA at the Olympic Stadium in Moscow, before a crowd of 40,000!
He raffled off a $50,000(US) car at half-time!!
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They could get more if the RL officials and overpaid employees were on the ball and used their brains for a change, because the Auckland Rugby League, who control the whole game here in NZ(the Auckland Mafia)should prop up the NZRL by donating a $50,000 car which is rafflled off at half-time if the punters put all their tickets into a big bin, which is then turned around and around and the winning ticket is then drawn out of the bin by a cop.Gimmicks like that bring bums on seats and this is what former RRL President,Akhmet Kamaldinov did in September 2002, when Russia played USA at the Olympic Stadium in Moscow, before a crowd of 40,000!
He raffled off a $50,000(US) car at half-time!!
This isn't French RU or Russian RL, we don't need to do this type of thing.
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Someone mention Guazzini.

He should have stuck with Marseille.
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Well!It guarantees a crowd and the Auckland Rugby League could do with something like this Parra, considering that their flagship side, the Vulcans,usually draw 26 people per game at Mt Smart no2 for NSW Cup games.
There are more officials and employees at the games than spectactors!!
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Well!It guarantees a crowd and the Auckland Rugby League could do with something like this Parra, considering that their flagship side, the Vulcans,usually draw 26 people per game at Mt Smart no2 for NSW Cup games.
There are more officials and employees at the games than spectactors!!
Disagree 100,000,000%, RL is an established sport in NZ and should be able to sell itself.

We do not need gimmicks to sell the game in established nations, I'm all form it in emerging nations, but that's it.
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if they dont get 40,000 then maybe the fans were the england and png as curtainraisers.
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One of the main reason NZRL opted to play the ANZAC test in Australia more often then not is because they make more moeny out of the game itself if its played in Australia.

That is the main reason!
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Grown in people watching but not participating International League!A bit of a difference in my book and if they can't get 50,000 there's something wrong!
It does show a growth in interest, which will almost certainly mean a growth in playing numbers.

I think a crowd of 30,000+ is a great crowd, and as long as they make a profit whilst increasing interest in the game, it is all good.
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If there was such a growth in playing numbers here in NZ, International league,why did the New Zealand Rugby League allow the Coaching Director,Daniel Floyd,who has never coached a Rugby League team in his life,to go down the road to the Warriors if he's that good.
Since Floyd took over the NZRL Director of Coaching job in 2010,which was an inside job, where others who were better qualified than him weren't interviewed at all,the playing numbers according to the NZRL, have gone from 10,000 in 2010 to 33,500 in 2012, a 230% increase.
With more people playing the game,wouldn't that mean more coaches,managers,trainers,waterboys and referees??It would also mean more supporters at games,more punters in the clubhouse after the game proppping up the bar and not drinking out in the carparks,more sponsors on board and more media coverage!
I have yet to witness any of that and I go to Ellerslie Rugby League Club every Saturday afternoon and the place is dead.20 years ago we were averaging 4,000 people per game when we had the likes of Ex-All Black Graig Innes on our books, where we took a ton of money over the bar and the place was pumping.It was the best ticket in town.
With more players as you lot on the forums claim,where's all the money for all the registration forms?If there's 33,500 players and if they pay a levy of $20 per player to the NZRL and if my arithmetic is correct,wouldn't that mean $6.7 million to the coffers of our National Body,yet they say they have no money!Somethingjust doesn't stack up!
This is the joke of the Century and tell them they're dreaming!!
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Chris, this thread is about the ANZAC Test.

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Bigger playing numbers doesn't always mean more people at the gate.

You just have to look at Tests in Sydney to debunk that theory.
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It relates to the Anzac Test because one of your bloggers mentioned increase playing numbers here in NZ as well which isn't true and I wanted to set the record straight for once and for all.OK Nut!If there are 33,500 playing the game here in the Shakey Isles as you people claim,then they should full up Eden Park shouldn't they Nut with no bloody excuses!!
If it's an Anzac Test why isn't being played on Anzac Day like it should be!!On another note,I hope the NZRL give better treatment out for their Life Members this time around,which wasn't the case in 2010 at Eden Park and that they are all invited to the Corporate area of the NZRL lounge,prior to the game,during the game and after the game and that the NZRL pay for the airfares,hotels,transportation and food for those Life Members who live out of Auckland.A lot of those people are now in their 80's and some of them are even approaching 90 and last time they went to Eden Park, they were treated like shit, by the shitheads that run our game and I have,had a gutsful of how some of these wonderful salt of the earth Rugby League folk,many of whom,laid the foundations of our great game,have be largely ignored,forgotten and abused by people who know nothing about the game!
It's just not on and I hope there's no repeat of this!
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If there was such a growth in playing numbers here in NZ, International league,why did the New Zealand Rugby League allow the Coaching Director,Daniel Floyd,who has never coached a Rugby League team in his life,to go down the road to the Warriors if he's that good.
All I am saying is the ANZAC test will give NZ sports fans a chance to see some quality RL and it will more than likely get more people involved in RL.

I did not say there was such a growth in numbers in NZ, simply that having more quality matches played in NZ will help grow the game.

Also I think if NZ win it, it will really build the interest for the 2012 RL season.
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If they can't win,they have to sack the coach,get rid of the 4 selectors,sack Doyle and get rid the whole Board of the NZRL and start all over again for the 2013 RLWC International League.That lot have,had a fair go and if they can't shape up ship out.
That's the only solution!
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Eden Park to host 2012 New Zealand v Australia April Test match


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International rugby league is heading back to Eden Park with the NZRL confirming today that the first of their two 2012 clashes against Australia will be played at New Zealand's largest stadium on Friday, April 20.

Eden Park CEO, David Kennedy, welcomed confirmation of the Test. "It's great to see New Zealand rugby league's biggest international of the year coming to New Zealand's premier stadium."

Eden Park hosted eleven Rugby World Cup matches last year, including both the semi-finals and the final. NZRL CEO Jim Doyle says, "It is now an excellent facility and we want the Kiwis to be playing on the biggest and best stage we have." Doyle continues, "This promises to be a fantastic night out for all families and fans. We're expecting a great crowd to come along and support the Kiwis."

Rugby league crowds are certainly not newcomers to Eden Park. When the Kiwis and Kangaroos clashed in the 2010 Four Nations, there were 44,324 at the ground. That was the second largest crowd the NZRL had seen for a game, behind the 47,363 that watched the 1988 World Cup final, also at Eden Park.

The last time New Zealand hosted the Anzac Test was back in 1998. That year the Kiwis, helped by a couple of Kevin Iro tries, won 22-16 at North Harbour Stadium. But that's also the last time New Zealand won the annual fixture.

In a move welcomed by the NZRL, players from both teams will benefit from this year's Test being played as a standalone fixture, with no NRL games scheduled that weekend.

Tickets for the 2012 VB Test Match go on sale through Ticketek (0800 842 538, www.ticketek.co.nz and all agencies,) from Friday, February 3.

2012 VB Test Match
Friday, April 20 at Eden Park, Auckland
Eden Park

The crowd capacity at Eden Park in April 2012 will be 50,000. (With temporary seating, the ground could handle 60,000 during the 2011 Rugby World Cup).

Rugby league crowds at Eden Park have included:

47,363 1988 World Cup Final (NZ vs Aus)
44,324 2010 Four Nations (NZ vs Aus)
38,412 2011 NRL (Vodafone Warriors vs Parramatta Eels)

Anzac Tests

The last three Anzac Test results have been:

2011 20-10 Australia
2010 12-8 Australia
2009 38-10 Australia

With 11 Anzac Tests played in Australia and just one in New Zealand, since the first game in 1997, the home team has won every match.

On home soil

This is the first Anzac Test in New Zealand since 1998. The Kiwis won then 22-16 at North Harbour Stadium. (NZ: Kevin Iro (2), Sean Hoppe and Terry Hermansson tries. Matthew Ridge 3 goals. AUS: Terry Hill (2) and Steve Renouf tries. Mat Rogers 2 goals. Attendance: 24,620).

The 1998 Anzac Test teams were:

NZ: Matthew Ridge (c), Sean Hoppe, Richard Blackmore, Ruben Wiki, Richard Barnett, Robbie Paul, Stacey Jones, John Lomax, Henry Paul, Quentin Pongia, Jarrod McCracken, Tony Iro, Logan Swann. Interchange: Nigel Vagana, Terry Hermansson, Kevin Iro, Joe Vagana. Coach: Frank Endacott.

AUS: Robbie O'Davis, Wendell Sailor, Terry Hill, Steve Renouf, Mat Rogers, Laurie Dailey (c), Andrew Johns, Rodney Howe, Geoff Toovey, Paul Harragon, Steve Menzies, Brad Thorn, Brad Fittler. Interchange: Darren Lockyer, Nik Kosef, Glenn Lazarus, Dean Pay. Coach: Bob Fulton.

* Current Kiwi coach Stephen Kearney, who was a key player in the second row of the Kiwis at that time, missed the 1998 Anzac Test through suspension.

The Bill Kelly Memorial Trophy

Bill Kelly was born in Westport in 1892. He played rugby league for Wellington, Balmain, NSW, New Zealand and Australia. He later also coached Auckland and New Zealand. Bill died in 1975 and the Bill Kelly Memorial Trophy has been played for between New Zealand and Australia in Anzac Tests since 1997.
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Bill Kelly was not related to the former Chairman of the NZRL Gerald Ryan?
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"Rugby league crowds at Eden Park have included:

47,363 1988 World Cup Final (NZ vs Aus)
44,324 2010 Four Nations (NZ vs Aus)
38,412 2011 NRL (Vodafone Warriors vs Parramatta Eels)"

Good to see the NZ national side drawing more then the Warriors.
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And on another note!Test Matches in the 1910's,20's,30's,40's,50's,60's and right up to the mid-70's drew huge crowds at the SCG Nut!History is history and you can't change the history but you can still learn from it.
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I find it interesting how there are around 30k RL players actively playing in NZ yet they're expecting 40k + at this game? Interesting?
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It is a bit, however I would go to a cricket game and I don't play cricket.
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The NZRL can't count the numbers properly dragons4eva!Only 9,000 registered players!A case of triple vision and the NZRL are now reading these posts and how come they haven't pulled me into line and challenge me over this??
Because they are too scared as I can trap them!
Either show us some evidence (Better then you know a guy(s)) of this or stop going on about it.
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I find it interesting how there are around 30k RL players actively playing in NZ yet they're expecting 40k + at this game? Interesting?

Dude players have families.
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And they don't pay their registration fees too!They counted the people that play tig and tag.How come there's only 15,000 registered Rugby League players in PNG where Rugby League is king in a population of 8.5 million yet there's more here??
I have noticed no difference and I'm prepared to challenge the NZRL over this along with a few others!
See ya in court NZRL and I hope you lot pay your lawyer fees and didn't you lot chicken shit when Auckland Rugby League threatened Legal action over you lot??!!
If they did then good on them. You still haven't showed any evidence of this and just claim that this has happened because you spoke to some "guys". Many people here are on the NRL's back trying to get them to do a deal with Touch and Tag Rugby (as they born out of League) to get some kind of partnership going and count those participants in the numbers.

No Rugby League fan anywhere would wish that any Rugby League organisation would waste all it's money in court instead of putting it back into the game. After the Super League war that kind of "wish" is almost offensive.
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Tig and tag and touch isn't Rugby League and besides the NZRL have no money to take people to court!
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No body claimed that is it was. What I said was that those sports were born out of League and there has been pressure by some to get a recognition between the sports to get those playing numbers included in Rugby League playing numbers in Australia. Because like it or not, the people that play it in Australia are Rugby League lovers that don't want to rick injury.
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Still not the real McCoy and Rugby Union clubs also play the same game!
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I find it interesting how there are around 30k RL players actively playing in NZ yet they're expecting 40k + at this game? Interesting?

Dude players have families.
Bit of an understatement for some of the Polynesian boys
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chris sanders
Jan 22 2012, 02:03 PM
Still not the real McCoy and Rugby Union clubs also play the same game!
I didn't mention clubs.
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Well RU play exactly the same way as we(RL) in tig and tague or touch by playing the ball as a feature and they are always pinching our ideas and turning it around to their advantage.
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What are you talking about now?

In touch and Tag Rugby there is no play-the-ball. They are called roll balls in those two games.

I have no idea what all this has to do with Rugby League's popularity in Australia pushing up the numbers of Touch and Tag players in Australia.
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